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Bert Wylen interviews Dick Leitsch, former president of the New York Mattachine Society, about his personal history and activism. Leitsch reflects on his upbringing in Louisville, his early experiences coming out, and his move to New York City, where he worked as a bartender before joining the Mattachine Society. Leitsch discusses his rise to leadership within the organization, internal generational divides over the meaning of homosexuality and political strategy, and his opposition to sectarian approaches to gay politics. Leitsch describes the Mattachine’s work against police entrapment amid escalating crackdowns on gay bars, as well as tensions between the east and west coast chapters. Leitsch addresses the political climate surrounding the Stonewall Rebellion, its evolving legacy, and ongoing myths about who was allowed at the Stonewall; Bert Wylen interviews Robert Bryan about his recollections of the Stonewall Rebellion. Bryan describes the atmosphere of the protests, addressing common myths such as who threw the first bottle, and reflects on the differences between the first night of the rebellion and the nights that followed. He discusses the lack of immediate recognition of Stonewall's significance by both the media and the broader gay community. Material used in broadcasts of WXPN’s Gaydreams and Pacifica National News