Bert Wylen interviews Dell Martin and Phyllis Lyon on February 12, 1994 about their personal and activist journeys. Martin and Lyon reflect on their coming out experiences, the founding of the Daughters of Bilitis (DOB) in 1955, and the organization's relationship with the Mattachine Society and the broader homophile movement. Martin and Lyon discuss their perspectives on assimilationist politics, their collaboration with the Democratic Party, and their involvement in the feminist movement. Martin and Lyon also recount their role in the 1965 New Year’s Eve Drag Ball, examine the mythologizing of the Stonewall Rebellion, and consider the present and future of the gay rights movement. Material used in broadcasts of WXPN’s Gaydreams and Pacifica National News.