Bert Wylen interviews Perry Watkins on January 23, 1991 about his experiences as an out and gay member of the United States military during the years 1968 to 1970. Watkins discusses his eventual dismissal on the basis of his sexuality and his successful appeal for reinstatement. Wylen interviews Joseph Steffan about his suit against the Naval Academy after his dismissal from the school on the basis of his sexuality. Material used in broadcasts of WXPN’s Gaydreams.